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Circuit City (CC) and Buybacks

As I am the buybackking I am going to tell you all I know about buybacks.  I have been getting crushed and to top it off one of my buyback stocks filed chapter 11 - Circuit City (CC).  I am still a little upset because I do not believe CC needed to go broke, if management decided to make changes before bankruptcy rather than after it.  Once your company hits chapter 11 it usually is not good for stockholders.  In the end, after they emerge they usually cancel the stock and give stockholders the chance to buy warrants way out of the money.

From 2000 to 2008 the stock never changed much.  Long-term debt was low and current asset to current liabilities was a ratio of 2:1.  Even today that ratio is like 1.5:1 (CC SEC filing).  Even in their latest quarterly, their balance sheet looks no different or better than 100s of other companies.  Revenues are down but only like 10% and they have been closing stores and terminating higher cost employees.  So I thought they could pull through.  They still have $1 billion in equity.

The reason I am the buybackking, is they have been buying back shares since 2003 lowering shares outstanding from 210 to 170 million shares in 2007.  Thus I was attracted to it with its buybacks and little long-term debt.  From what I learned it is not long-term debt that is too important it is short-term liabilities - rent, debt, etc. that determines whether a company can pay its bills.  The best ratio to look at is the current ratio.  A current ratio above 3 as generally considered safe.

As result of this and observing 100s of buyback stocks.  I think there are two reason for buybacks.  1. is to increase shareholder value, and 2. the sinister to unload stocks when insiders know the stocks is troubled and they want to get money out in privately negotiated buybacks.  The problem with #2 is the same problem you find in horse racing the owners and trainers know what is really going on with the stock or horse.  The public is left guessing.

The reason I like buybacks is imho they are better than dividends.  Suppose you have 2 companies p/e of 10, price of 20, and 10% growth rate.   The company wants to distribute 50% of earnings to the stock holders permanently.  If the company issues a 5% dividend, the stock price will probably jump to 30 or more and thus offer a 3.3% yield.  However, if the stock chooses to distribute 50% as dividends and 50% as buybacks.  The stock probably won't rise and have a 2.5% yield.  Dividend hunters will probably consider the $30 a better buy.  However, as the $20 stock buys back its shares, not only can it increase its dividend 10% a year, it can increase it 15%.  Furthermore the stocks fundamentals are based on old shares outstanding creating more hidden value.  If the stock becomes to attractive it might be a buyout candidate and I suggest many CEOs to increase their dividend if the price becomes too attractive.

Most companies do not buy back shares correctly.  They start a plan and buyback too aggressively.  I think they would be wise to keep it in short-term investments and buy from the pool at a more steady rate.  Furthermore if they really need the money they can use money from this pool.  If many companies like CC did this they might still exist and could be buying back at the low prices of today.   Today many companies might slow their buyback plans and focus on survival.

Some other info about buybacks.  Buyback announcements and buyback rates are not the same.  Consider only a company that is losing shares outstanding as a buyback stock.  Many companies have buyback plans but shares outstanding continue to rise.  This can be from stock options, to recent acquisitions,  to other sinister things.  


CC

If someone can tell what to watch for before chap 11 please tell me.

To me bby looks to be in worse financial shape than cc.

CC

CC had to file for bankruptcy because big suppliers, including Sony, were refusing to extend them credit. When a company has to start paying for merchandise upfront, it's the end. Watch for deterioration in the current ratio and quick ratio, inventory turnover, accounts receivable turnover, sales declining sharply, etc. Also visit the stores and see what they look like. In New York in several store visits I noticed more CC employees than customers, not a very good sign...

My death watch list for the coming months:

1) Six Flags
2) Krispy Kreme Donuts
3) Loehmann's
4) Michaels Stores
5) Claire's Stores
6) Pier One

On another topic, a higher regular dividend (not special, one-time) is vastly superior to share buybacks. There are numerous academic studies on that.

academic studies on buybacks

Studies on buybacks have also been promising.  I have read a lot studies and both dividends and buybacks beat the market.  The problem is buyback announcements are not necessarily buybacks.  I just wonder as you say if dividends beat buybacks.  I am not sure, but I like buybacks better because sometimes you get a 10% annual buyback and a 2% dividend and 20% growth and it just seems like such and easy double. 

PIR has a long history of buybacks.  But they aren't steady o never interested.  At some BBY stores I have noticed more employees than customers too.  Some are crowded.

CC has been cutting stores and personnel since 2003, thus revenue drops are expected.

Why Vooch?

I can understand a short-term trader selling at this point but why a long-term investor like yourself?  You might have explained it in your recent post but the link did not work for me.

Me?

I still own all $0.11 a share of it.  But the stock is done, once it hits chapter 11, show me a case of a happy ending for original stockholders.  CC still has $5 in equity though.  CC balance sheet looks better that BBYs imho.

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year over year change in liabilitie static

Why would vendors change anything bance sheet is static?

Merchandise payable
 
$
754,521 
   
$
912,094
 
Expenses payable
   
268,107 
     
232,386
 
Accrued expenses and other current liabilities
   
343,525 
     
346,818
 
Accrued compensation
   
74,729 
     
85,127
 
Accrued income taxes
   
17,165 
     
17,680
 
Short-term debt
   
215,000 
     
 
Current installments of long-term debt
   
14,203 
     
11,582
 
                 
Total current liabilities
   
1,687,250 
     
1,605,687
 
                 
Long-term debt, excluding current installments
   
52,566 
     
57,050
 
Accrued straight-line rent
   
152,369 
     
145,960
 
Deferred rent credits
   
168,578 
     
163,662
 
Accrued lease termination costs
   
78,564 
     
82,900
 
Deferred income taxes, net of valuation allowance
   
31,281 
     
35,586
 
Other liabilities
   
152,720 
     
151,910
 

biscosc,>  You might have

biscosc,

>  You might have explained it in your recent post but the link did not work for me.

I had a power outage the other day, which lasted about 6 hours.

The website is back up now.  It's located here:  http://www.ActiveValueTrader.com

The blog and forum posts there will explain why I'm selling.  Steven and I, are seeing data which suggests the bear move still has power to go down.

So far, I've been lucky (or skillful) enough to survive the huge tankage.  However, my holdings will not keep afloat forever.  Instead, they'll be the last bastions to go down - that's why I must sell now.

Thanks,
- Vooch

Buybacks Killed the Company!

I would have to conclude that stock buybacks are what killed Circuit City.  Consider that in 2005 they had an $880 million cash cushion but by May 2008 that had dwindled to $90 million.  In the meantime they spent $720 million on share buybacks, basically to please "activist shareholders" and protect management from a threatened leveraged buyout.  This "efficient use of capital" croaked the company.  Global credit crunch plus no cash cushion equals dead company.