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WMT DCF Analysis

Current Stock Price48.03         
Shares Outstanding4173         
Next Year's FCF12774         
Perpetuity Growth Rate0.03         
Discount Rate0.1         
           
10 Year Valuation ModelYr 1Yr 2Yr 3Yr 4Yr 5Yr 6Yr 7Yr 8Yr 9Yr 10
           
Assumed Growth Rate 0.080.080.080.070.070.070.070.070.05
Free Cash Flow12774.013795.914899.616091.617218.018423.219712.921092.822569.223697.7
Discount Factor1.101.211.331.461.611.771.952.142.362.59
Discounted Cash1161311401.61119410990.81069110399101169839.99571.69136.49
           
Perpetuity Value = (Yr 10 FCF x (1 + Perpetuity Rate)) / (Discount Rate - Perpetuity Rate)    
Perpetuity Value =348695         
Discounted =134437         
           
Total Equity Value =Discounted Yr 1-10 Values + Discounted Perpetuity Value    
Total Equity Value =239391         
           
Per Share Intrinsic Value =57.37         
% Discount to Intrinsic Value16.28%         

To get my Next Years FCF estimate:
Income from Q1, Q2, Q3 of 2006 from latest 10Q -> 7.345 billion
Add back loss from discontinued operations of 894 million -> 7.345 + .8934 =  8.239 billion
Add Income from Q4 2005 -> 8.239 + 3.589 = 11.82 billion
Add 8% income growth for next year -> 11.82 * 1.08 = 12.77 billion

Discount Rate
I'm using is 10%, which is standard.

I think this is a conservative estimate and believe 16.28% will outperform the market over the next 12 months while taking on less risk.


I guess that's the way a DCF

I guess that's the way a DCF should be done!

Why exactly do you think a 16.28% discount is going to outperform?


Jan

Great job, biscosc.  I'm

Great job, biscosc.  I'm still holding onto WMT.  Maybe one day they'll announce a big stock buyback and that alone could send the stock upward.




Theo,

I think you should have held onto WMT as part of an overall diversification strategy (heck, one time it was your favorite stock)... putting all your money into oil and gold is a bit greedy and too narrow, imo.  If you're wrong on your assumptions, you'll end up getting screwed and that's not fun. 

- Vooch

I am greedy!

Vooch:

In all seriousness, my goal is to make as much money as I can in the markets.  I would not be risking my money otherwise.  So yes, I am greedy.  If I was to choose diversification for the sake of being less greedy, I should question why I was even investing in the first place.

I am still a big believer in Wal-Mart, however.  It is still my safest stock pick even though I no longer own it personally.  But, again, it is not my best idea at the moment.  I spend every day working at stocks and, if better opportunities come along, I will not hestitate to sell any investment.

Yes there is a possibility that I am wrong.  And if I am, I will lose money.  But that goes with every investment and investment philosophy.  That could be said about every investment I have ever made.  For example, over the years I have risked my money on many small caps with insider buying.  You would not believe the amount of people who told me I was wrong.  You would not believe how many people read my blog and sent me emails telling me that the insider buying strategy does not work.  My bank account says otherwise.

With gold and oil, I am not buying because I think the sectors are "hot".  There are major fundamentals in place here.  UTS Energy, in my opinion, is 10x more undervalued than Wal-Mart.  You are buying a market cap of $1.74 billion, but they have assets worth a potential $20 billion or more.  Value is value, regardless of the sector concentration.

But let's talk about narrowness.  As an investor, you cannot afford to ignore macro-events.  What worked in the past will not necessarily work in the future.  People forget that Buffett closed down his partnership in 1969 because he could not find anything to buy.  The market was overvalued in his opinion.  So he liquidated everything except Berkshire.  Well, is it a coincidence that the 70s was the start of a major bull market in commodities?  Especially in oil and gold?  Interestingly enough, 1970, the year after Buffett closed his partnership, Jim Rogers and George Soros opened the Quantum Fund.  Over the next 10 years, the Quantum Fund grew more than 3,300% whereas the Dow went up 20%.  Jim Rogers retired at the age of 37 for being "narrow".

Anyhow, I realize there are many bulls and bears for the current stock market situation.  One of them is wrong.  As an investor, I must do my own research, come to my own conclusions, and then take a stance.  You do that every time you buy a contrarian stock.  Right now, my stand is that the US Dollar will fall and gold will rise.  My stand is that peak oil has hit and oil will rise long-term.  Furthermore, I see tons of oil companies with stellar growth numbers and insider buying.  Those are my best ideas and I must stick with them.

-theo

Theo,OK, fair enough - you

Theo,

OK, fair enough - you made your point.  I just wanted you to know what I think of your WMT sell.

I hope your trade-off does yield a higher return than WMT could do for you.  I know you're an excellent investor - better than me.

One last point:
http://www.gurufocus.com/holdings.php?GuruName=Joel+Greenblatt 

He's got 45% of his money on WMT.  I'll be sleeping comfortably with my WMT shares.

- Vooch

Theo,Well, I must admit from

Theo,


Well, I must admit from my last blog post dated January 23rd, WMT ranks #7 in my book:
http://www.stokblogs.com/node/484

Since you hold 9 stocks now... perhaps WMT is ranked as your #10 now (not worthy).  Just a guess.


- Vooch

RE: Greenblatt

Hi Vooch,

Yes I felt good about that too.  But here's my question maybe other StokBloggers can answer:

According to Wikipedia, Gotham Capital started with $7 million and achieved a 50% annualized return for 10 years.  I know I read from his books that he returned all external money a few years ago, which implies multiple investors other than the initial $7 million from Milken.  Now Greenblatt just manages his own money.  According to the SEC filings, the total portfolio invested is around $40 million.  Is that all the money Greenblatt has?  If you are returning 50% for 10 years, wouldn't you be a lot richer? 



-theo

You would have to start out

You would have to start out with $750,000 to get to $40 mil in 10 years at 50%.

I know he donates some money to schools.

- Vooch

RE: You would have to start out

Well, $7 million turns into $400 million after 10 years at 50%.  So he could have made $40 million from fees.  But if you started generating those kinds of returns, wouldn't he have been managing more money and therefore made a bigger cut?  That's how Eddie Lampert and all those other guys became billionaires.


-theo

re: greenblatt

The remaining $960mil he is:


a) buying real estate

b) investing in other currencies

c) investing in gold

d) bought cattle

e) got made a bed of $100 bills

f) plays $100 showers everyday

g) spent on buying all available books he wrote


add your own :-)


-sc

With $960mil, he's probably

With $960mil, he's probably sleeping on this 150k bed:
http://therawfeed.com/pix/floatingbed.jpg

 $       750,000.00

 $       750,000.00
 $    1,125,000.00
 $    1,687,500.00
 $    2,531,250.00
 $    3,796,875.00
 $    5,695,312.50
 $    8,542,968.75
 $  12,814,453.13
 $  19,221,679.69
 $  28,832,519.53
 $  43,248,779.30

Re: Wal-Mart DCF

Actually for the year ending Jan 2006 Wal-Mart's free cash flow was approximately $1.4 billion only.  You forgot to subtract $14.5 billion of capital expenditures...

Re: Jan, Vooch

Jan: Why exactly do you think a 16.28% discount is going to outperform?

I think WMT will close that 16.28% discount gap on top of the market return over the next 12 months, which I always estimate at around 10%.  So 26% versus the market rate of 10%, more than twice the market return.

Vooch: Maybe one day they'll announce a big stock buyback and that alone could send the stock upward.

They already are in the process of a large buyback.  Although they have not bought back any stock in the last five quarters, they did buy $3.6 billion in the first half of 2005.  See the excerpt below from their last annual report.  (Their fiscal year is one ahead year)

"From time to time, we repurchase shares of our common stock under a $10.0 billion share repurchase program authorized by our Board of Directors in September 2004. During the first half of fiscal 2006, we repurchased $3.6 billion of shares under this repurchase program. No shares of our common stock were repurchased under this program in the third or fourth quarters of fiscal 2006. During fiscal 2005, we repurchased $4.5 billion of shares under the current and past authorizations. At January 31, 2006, approximately $6.1 billion of additional shares may be repurchased under the current authorization.

There is no expiration date for or other restriction limiting the period over which we can make our share repurchases under the program, which will expire only when and if we have repurchased $10.0 billion of our shares under the program."

Re: Bruno

Bruno: Actually for the year ending Jan 2006 Wal-Mart's free cash flow was approximately $1.4 billion only.  You forgot to subtract $14.5 billion of capital expenditures...

Let me clarify more on how I come up with that FCF number.

Basically, I am using net income, and assuming they stop opening new stores.  If they stopped opening new stores then the net income (which includes depreciation and amoritization) should be about what they make after maintenance cap-ex (Depr & Amor) on existing stores.

One could argue that by stopping capex spending on new stores their growth rate will be lower than what I estimated and this could very well be true.  I'm estimating the growth rate using GDP growth + SSS + effects of buybacks, or 3% + 2% + 3% = 8%. 

CAPEX adjustments

biscosc,

I think the growth input for your DCF is very reasonable. Nevertheless, as Bruno pointed out, using FCF before growth investments AND implying store growth basically means double counting. I guess it's more accurate if you either :
- use FCF before growth- capex with only 3%  SSS as growth estimate OR
- use discounted dividends yrs 1-10 and buybacks as a substitute for your discounted FCFs yrs 1-10

 

Think about the 2007 FCF number. Of the $12.774 Bln, only a small part is going to be available to shareholders. All the growth investments create future growth of dividends/ buybacks. Therefore, the money WMT puts into store growth is not available right away.

 

Dividends per share are likely to increase faster than FCFs, since lower store growth in a couple of years might cause growth investments to come down. Moreover, I expect the share base to decrease, causing even stronger Div per share growth. In my calculation above, I use 2% annual reduction in the number of dil. shares. This trend is also likely to lift the perpetuity value per share in 10 years, discounted by a 10% factor.

 

With the adjustments included, WMT does not appeal to me.

 

Regards,

Jan


Current Stock Price

48.36

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Shares Outstanding

4173

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Next Year's FCF

12774

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Perpetuity Growth Rate

0.03

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Discount Rate

0.1

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

10 Year Valuation Model

Yr 1

Yr 2

Yr 3

Yr 4

Yr 5

Yr 6

Yr 7

Yr 8

Yr 9

Yr 10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Assumed Growth Rate

 

0.08

0.08

0.08

0.08

0.08

0.08

0.08

0.08

0.08

Div per share

0.672

0.726

0.784

0.847

0.914

0.987

1.066

1.151

1.244

1.343

Discount Factor

1.10

1.21

1.33

1.46

1.61

1.77

1.95

2.14

2.36

2.59

Discounted Div

0.611

0.600

0.590

0.580

0.568

0.558

0.547

0.538

0.527

0.519

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Perpetuity Value per share = (Yr 10 FCF x (1 + Perpetuity Rate)) / (Discount Rate - Perpetuity Rate)/(dil. Shares outstanding x (1-annual share reduction)^10)

 

 

 

 

Perpetuity Value per share =

39.43

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Discounted  Div. =

5.638

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Per Sh. Intrinsic Value =

Discounted  Div. Yr 1-10 Values + Discounted Perpetuity Value per share

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Per Share Intrinsic Value =

$45.07

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

% Discount to Intrinsic Value

-6.81%

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Bizarre DCF

This is a pretty bizarre way of doing a DCF, using only the dividends and with 87% of the value coming from 'perpetuity'.

Just for sanity check, Wal-Mart's forward P/E (based on analysts' consensus of $3.19 per share) is 15.7x.  Does this look expensive to you?  Compare this to the P/E of the broad market.

How do you justify buying Google based on a dividend discount model?

you are very right

Indeed, we do not see DCFs like mine too often. To be honest: I'm playing around in the DCF field right now with the goal of finding a model that fits me. Nevertheless, it's not logical to include "FCF after maintenance capex, discounted year 1-10" AND assume ambitious growth assumptions. The money a company invests into store growth during year X is not  avaiable  for shareholders in year X!
It migth be avaiable in the future though.

I agree that a 15 PE looks inexpensive, especially in comparison to the S&P 500.
PE 15 equals an earnings yield of 6.67%. Of that, investors receive:

1.40% dividend yield
2.50% annual buybacks  (round-about...)

+ growth in the future!

This growth requires capital investments. Therefore, investors do not get the full 6.67% right away! (Note, that true the "owner's earnings"- yield might even be lower than six-something percent)


Google is a different story. NOBODY can estimate the exact future growth rate of Google. Not even the 29 "analysts", who say it's going  to be 32.5% in the next five years. What we know for sure is the fact that growth is going to be pretty darn high, or Google disappears (the latter is an outcome I definitly consider as well). Google does not pay a dividend and probably never will. Shares outstanding grow at 5% anually. Pretty bad, right?
- Not if you consider POSSIBLE growth. Let's say they increase sales 32.5% over the next five/ten/fifteen years. Although this sounds pretty new-economish, it does not matter whether you pay $500, $300 or $900 for GOOG.
We cannot apply valid DCF- models here. Bill Miller said something along the line "a DCF is like the hubble telescope: you change some numbers and you end up in an entire different galaxy".
I am perfectly willing to lose money on google. For risk management purposes, it is only a small position in my "real" accounts. Nevertheless, I utterly believe in Google as a decent risk-adjustment investment.

PLEASE correct me if I'm totally wrong. I have to admit that I have been doing "standart" DCFs forever and many trading decisions are based on them! Just recently, I have been reconsidering different approaches.
 
Thanks for every comment,

Jan

WMT up +3.67% today

;-)))

Article on Growth Vs. Maintenence Cap-ex

Whitney Tilson wrote this on a Motley Fool discussion board many years back:

"Let's start with a quick example: a company buys a truck for $100,000 that it expects will last for 10 years. The company will depreciate $10,000 each year over that period -- an expense on the income statement (albeit one that is not usually broken out separately). In the first year, on the cash flow statement $10,000 will be added back in the "Depreciation and amortization" line, and the full $100,000 cash cost will appear under cap ex.

On the balance sheet, as soon as the truck is purchased, cash will decline by $100,000 and "Net property, plant and equipment" will increase by the same amount, and then decline by $10,000 per year as the depreciation is moved to the income statement.

(Incidentally, the failure to account for cap ex is one of the many reasons why EBITDA -- earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization -- is such a bogus number. EBITDA ignores very real, very necessary, and often very large capital expenditures. Occasionally there is a legitimate reason for a company to use EBITDA as its primary measure of profitability, but in general, be very wary when this is the case.)

Maintenance Cap Ex vs. Growth Cap Ex
Maintenance cap ex is what a company has to spend to maintain its existing operations and market position. In a business with low or modest growth, almost all of cap ex is typically for maintenance. In this case, depreciation will generally be roughly equal to cap ex.

Growth cap ex is what a company spends beyond what is necessary. In this case, a company is taking its free cash flow and, rather than returning it to shareholders (via dividends or stock buybacks), is investing it in the hopes of generating a return above the cost of that capital.

But how can one distinguish between the two types of cap ex, since they are combined in the cash flow statement? Good question. Sometimes a company will give guidance, but you generally just have to use your judgement. If cap ex is significantly higher than depreciation, or had been steady for many years, and suddenly spiked up, it could indicate new growth cap ex. (It could also mean that the company had been spending too little on maintenance cap ex in the past.)

If it's a steady, modest-growth business, with depreciation roughly equal to cap ex, then it's probably safe to assume that all the cap ex is for maintenance. This is also generally true at the opposite end of the spectrum: it is hard to argue that a rapidly growing company with fast-changing technologies could safely cut cap ex and maintain its market position and cash flows. (Keep in mind, however, that current cash flows may not be a good way to value this type of business.) Thus, to be conservative, I generally deduct all cap ex to arrive at free cash flow unless I have a concrete reason to do otherwise.

In Lucent's case, cap ex is somewhat higher than depreciation and amortization, which shows that Lucent is investing increasing amounts in its business (assuming that the line item for depreciation and amortization is mostly depreciation). By itself, this is neither good nor bad -- it depends on how wisely the money is being invested. I'm sure some would argue that a great deal of Lucent's cap ex is for growth, but I don't think Lucent has much choice given that it is in ferociously competitive, fast-moving industries. Thus, I believe it is correct to subtract all cap ex to arrive at free cash flow, but if you want to instead use the lower figures from the depreciation and amortization line, I won't quibble. It doesn't change the results very much.

Deducting Depreciation and Amortization Rather Than Cap Ex
There are two reasons why I sometimes deduct depreciation and amortization (D&A) rather than cap ex in my calculation of free cash flow. First, if I know a company is investing heavily in growth, then the lower figure for D&A is likely to be closer to the cost of maintenance cap ex. Second, sometimes cap ex can vary widely from quarter to quarter, which can give the false impression that free cash flow is erratic. For example, I recently analyzed Blyth (BTH) and over the past 10 quarters, cap ex has ranged from $4.9 million to $24.4 million. However, D&A has risen fairly steadily from $4.6 million to $8.7 million. Thus, when calculating Blyth's free cash flow, I deduct D&A rather than cap ex from operating cash flow."